Be with me (3)

「不要去担心别人发生了什么,要完全地和我在一起。」


萨古鲁:

在这些课程中,我已经重复说过无数次同样的话了:你只需要和我在一起(just be with me),只要和我在一起就好。
但对大多数人来说,注意力却放在了这些事情上——“吃的怎么办”“上厕所怎么办”“这里发生了什么”“那里发生了什么”。这些成了他们关注的重点。

而那少数真正只是待在那里的片刻,已经带来了一些改变;在很多层面上,正是这些片刻把你带到了这里。

我想再说一遍:你只需要和这个(存在)在一起。
不要让自己偏离。如果你还不知道“与某物在一起”究竟意味着什么,那么至少先让你的感官保持专注,这是开始“在一起”的一个好方法

现在,你看着我,并不等于你就在和我在一起,但这是一个不错的开始方式。
你还做不到在不看着我的情况下却真正与我在一起,所以,一个好的起点,就是从你的感官开始。


求道者:
在过去几天里,在 satsang 中进行的一些过程里,你让我们把注意力集中在两眉之间。有些人似乎有了一些体验。我不知道发生了什么,也不知道为什么。我不知道我哪里出了问题,我不明白为什么我什么都体验不到。请你解释一下。

萨古鲁:
你应该把注意力放在你自己的两眉之间。(笑)

求道者:
是的,我明白这一点。但我还是没有任何体验。

萨古鲁:
(笑)我还以为你把注意力放在了别人的眉毛上呢。(笑)

现在,satsang 的意思是“与真理相会”。可问题是,你并不知道什么是真理,对吗?那你怎么和它相会呢?人们一直在谈论真理,经书也一直在高声宣讲它,但你并不知道什么是真理。所以此刻,当你坐在一位 guru 身边时,他是你所知道的、最接近真理的存在。即便如此,你对此其实也并不确定。

你要明白,就你而言,你并不能确定他是否真的在真理之中。你唯一能看到的是——他似乎至少处在一个比你更高一点的存在层面上。这是一个事实,我们承认这一点。你不知道他是否在真理之中;他可能是,也可能不是,但你没有任何方式去确认,对吗?你唯一能够确认的是:他在许多事情上比你清晰得多;他似乎比你更能掌控一切;他似乎至少站在一个比你认为自己所处位置更高的地方。正因为如此,你才会仰望他。

现在假设,我们正在等待一场洪水。你坐在低洼处,看不到即将发生什么。而有一个人坐在那根高杆上,每隔五分钟你就会问他:“情况怎么样了?发生了什么?”对吗?他未必能看到整个世界,但他所处的位置比你高。至于他是不是站在世界之巅,你并不知道,你也没有办法知道。

所以,让我们立足于现实。不要依赖幻觉,不要依赖信念体系。不要因为某种信念就简单地相信一些东西,因为这些信念迟早会崩塌。只有现实才能持续存在。

这正是你坐在一位 guru 身边的原因。你不知道你是否能够走到世界的尽头,或者超越世界。但至少,你想走到他所在的地方,走到下一个高点。所以,当你坐在一场 satsang 中时,请你完全地和我在一起。不要去担心别人发生了什么;要绝对地和我在一起。有人尖叫,有人大喊,有人做各种他们想做的“胡闹”,那都与你无关。你的事情只有一件——be with me(和我在一起)。

但你太在意周围发生了什么。正因为如此,你永远不会有任何事情发生在你身上,因为你没有专注。

你看,世界上的材料是不同的。如果我点燃一根火柴放在这里,也许约翰的披肩会很容易就被点着,比他的 T 恤更容易;当然,比你坐着的大理石更容易;也比那根钢柱容易得多,对吗?所以问题不在于披肩是不是比大理石或钢更“好”,重点不在这里。重点只是:它更容易着火,仅此而已。所以你不用去管谁着火了,谁没有着火;你的事情只是——为了你来到这里的目的,完全地在那里。

你听说过德罗纳查里亚吧?那个让某个人割掉拇指的人。他被认为是箭术乃至一切武艺方面的至高导师。他有一百零五个弟子——一百个俱卢族兄弟和五个般度族兄弟。在这 105 人当中,阿周那成为了他最钟爱的弟子,他向阿周那传授得最多。阿周那也成了最伟大的弓箭手。

这并不是因为德罗纳查里亚偏心,而是因为其他人根本不具备接收的能力。

有一天,他们在上课。他们和德罗纳查里亚一起住在一个修行所里。他讲了一些关于箭术的内容之后,为了进行实际练习,就把他们带到外面去。(笑)他在树的最高枝头放了一只玩具鹦鹉,然后让他们一个一个来,对他们说:“鹦鹉脖子上有一个小点,瞄准那个点射箭。”

他们拉开弓,等着他下令射箭。他让他们保持这个状态等了几分钟。大多数人无法把注意力放在一个地方超过几秒钟——你自己有没有发现这一点?于是他让他们拉着弓、保持专注地等了几分钟。这在身体上是非常吃力的。

然后他问他们:“你看到了什么?”

他们开始描述树上的叶子、果实、花朵、那只鸟,甚至连天空都描述了一遍。轮到阿周那时,他专注地拉开弓。

德罗纳查里亚问:“你看到了什么?”

阿周那说:“我只看到鹦鹉脖子上的那个点。除此之外什么都没有。”

这个人会到达某个地方。没有专注的人,即使到达了什么地方,也只是偶然的,不是吗?不是因为他们自身,而是尽管他们自己并不具备这种能力,存在中的各种力量把他们带到了那里。但这个人会到达,是因为他自己。

所以,当你在 satsang 中时,你也应该是这样的状态。你不要去担心世界其他地方发生了什么。你只需要待在你该待的位置上,专注于你该专注的事。那该发生的,就一定会发生。发生在别人身上的事情,不一定要发生在你身上但该发生在你身上的事情,一定会发生,没有任何人能阻止它。

可你如此关心别人发生了什么,结果时间被浪费了,生命被浪费了。


In the programs that we do, a million times over I have been saying the same thing, you know: just be with me, just be with me. But for most people, ‘what about the food’, ‘what about the toilet’, ‘what’s happening here’, ‘what’s happening there’ – that’s been the focus. The few moments of just being there have made some difference, and in so many ways, that’s what has brought you here. I would like to say this once again; you just need to be with this. Without deviating yourself, if you do not know what it means to ‘be’ with something, at least keeping your senses focused is a good way to start being with something. Now, if you are looking at me does not mean you are being with me, but it’s a good way to start. You are not capable of looking away from me and being with me, so a good way to start is with your senses.


Seeker: During the past few days, in certain processes conducted at the satsanghs, you asked us to focus between the eyebrows. Certain experiences seemed to happen to some people. I don’t know what happened and why. I don’t know what my problem is. I don’t understand why I am unable to experience anything. Please explain.

Sadhguru: You should keep the focus between your eyebrows. (Laughter)

Seeker: Yes, I understand that. Still I could not experience anything.

Sadhguru: (Laughs) I thought you kept it on somebody else’s eyebrows. (Laughter) Now, satsangh means a communion with truth. You don’t know what truth is; so how to commune with it, isn’t it? People have been talking about it; the scriptures have been screaming about it; but you do not know what truth is. So right now, when you sit with a guru, he is the nearest thing to truth that you know. That also you are not sure of. See, as far as you are concerned, you are not sure whether he is in truth or not. All you can see is he seems to be at least on a little higher level of existence than you are. That’s a reality; let’s admit it. You don’t know whether he is in truth or not. He may be, he may not be; but you have no way of knowing, isn’t it? The only thing that you can recognize is he seems to be much clearer than you about everything. He seems to be more in control of everything than you are. He seems to be at least one step higher than wherever you think you are. So that’s why you look up to him.

Right now, let’s say we are expecting a flood. You are sitting here in the depression, and you cannot see what’s coming. Somebody sitting on that pole up there, every five minutes you would ask him, ‘Where is it? What is happening?’ Isn’t it? He may not be seeing the whole world, but he is sitting in a more elevated place than you are. He may be on top of the world; that you do not know. You have no way of knowing. So let’s go with reality. Let’s not go with hallucinations; let’s not go with belief systems. Let’s not simply believe something because those beliefs will crash somewhere. Only reality will sustain itself.

That’s the reason why you are sitting with a guru. You don’t know whether you will get to the end of the world or beyond the world. But at least you want to get there where he is, to the next peak. So when you sit in a satsangh, sit totally with me. Don’t worry about what’s happening to somebody; be absolutely with me. Somebody screams, somebody yells, somebody does whatever nonsense they want; that’s not your business. Your business is just to be with me. But you are too concerned about what’s happening around you. Nothing will ever happen to you, because you have no focus.

See, there are different kinds of material in the world. Now, if I strike a match and keep it here, maybe John’s shawl will catch fire so much more easily than his T-shirt, yes? Definitely more easily than the marble on which you are sitting; definitely much more easily than the steel pole that is standing there. Isn’t it so? So the question is not whether the shawl is better than the marble, or the steel; that’s not the point. This catches fire so much more easily; that’s all it is. So you don’t worry who is catching fire, who is not catching fire; your business is just to be totally there, for the purpose you are there.

You’ve heard of Dronacharya, that man who took away somebody’s thumb? He is supposed to be the ultimate guru in archery, or any kind of arms, for that matter. These 105 brothers are his disciples. You know, the hundred Kauravas and the five Pandavas. Out of these 105, Arjuna became his favorite disciple to whom he revealed most. Arjuna became the greatest archer. Why this is so is not because Dronacharya played favorites, but simply because nobody else had the quality to receive.

One day they were in a class. They lived in an ashram along with Dronacharya. He was saying something about archery. For practical laboratory work, he took them outside. (Laughs) He had set up a toy parrot on the topmost branch of the tree. He took them out and one by one he told them, ‘There’s a little spot on the neck of the parrot. Aim at that spot and shoot.’ When they drew their bow, they waited till he said shoot. He kept them waiting for a few minutes. Most people cannot keep their focus in one place for more than a few seconds. Have you noticed this with yourself? So he let them wait for a few minutes with their bows drawn. It’s a strenuous thing, physically, holding it and being focused. Then he asked them, ‘What do you see?’ Then they went about describing all the leaves on the tree, the fruits, the flowers, the bird, and even the sky. When Arjuna’s turn came, he focused and he drew his bow.

Dronacharya asked, ‘What do you see?’

Arjuna said, ‘Just one spot on the neck of the parrot. That’s all I see.’

This man gets somewhere. People without focus, if they get anywhere, it’s only accidentally, isn’t it? Not because of themselves; in spite of themselves, people get somewhere because so many forces in the existence take them on. But this man will get somewhere because of himself.

So when you are in a satsangh, that’s how you must be. You don’t worry about what’s happening with the rest of the world. You simply be where you have to be, focused on what you have to be. Then what has to happen will happen. What happens to somebody need not happen to you; but what has to happen to you will definitely happen; nobody can deny it to you. But you are so concerned about what’s happening to somebody else that time goes waste; life goes waste.

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