Be with me (4)

求道者:
为什么有些人一见到你就会进入不同的状态,比如大声尖叫或喊叫?

萨古鲁:
(看来)你不是他们中的一员!(笑)

求道者:
为什么会这样?这是否意味着他们无法控制自己的头脑?

萨古鲁:
噢,你已经得出了结论,认为他们无法控制自己的头脑。现在,如果你留意一下,你会发现他们甚至不需要“看到”我。只要我从那里走过来,即使他们闭着眼睛坐着,也会变得异常激动。你注意到这一点了吗?

求道者:
注意到了。

萨古鲁:
所以,这并不是视觉带来的影响。(笑)
这就像早晨太阳升起时,许多花朵会绽放。但那些无法盛开的花蕾——它们没有盛开,也没什么奇怪的。那些盛开的花,过一段时间会凋谢,对吧?当它们盛开、凋谢时,那些没能盛开的花就会觉得,好像这些花“失去了对生命的控制”。其实它们不是失控,而是转化了。花会变成果实,或者种子,生命进入下一个体验与存在的维度。

所以,永远不要对不在你体验范围内的事情下判断。那会非常愚蠢,因为你所有的判断,都来自于你当前的生命经验,对吗?
任何不在你经验中的事情,只要你在头脑里觉得“这不对”,你其实是在确保:任何新的东西永远不会发生在你身上。你明白我在说什么吗?

从你有限的当下经验出发,如果你不停地判断——“这些人不正常”“他们心智失守”(weak minded)——你会发现,你曾经膜拜过的很多人,恰恰都在你所谓“心智失守者”的名单里。要不要我告诉你一些名字?
在你这个“心智失守”的名单里,最前面的包括:罗摩克里希纳·帕拉马汉萨(Ramakrishna Paramahamsa),还有克里希纳周围所有的牧女(gopis)(笑),甚至Shiva本人(一个非常“心智失守”的人——他总是爆发出各种狂喜状态!),以及所有在Shiva身边的人。

生命只是在许多不同的层面和维度上发生。现在你的体验仅限于生活的几个方面。在你死去之前,你想探索生命所有的可能性吗?

求道者:
想。

萨古鲁:
那么你就不该对不在你体验范围内的事情下判断。
并不是他们“心智失守”(weak-minded),而是当我在场的时候,他们的头脑就会完全不在场(mindless)。当你没有头脑时,“头脑弱 / 头脑强”(weak mind/ strong mind)的问题根本不存在。

我想让你明白:头脑本身就是一个非常弱(weak)的工具。
它确实可以做出不可思议的事情,但只在一个维度中有效。在生存层面、在社会中显得体面,它是个很棒的工具;但在靠近神性的过程中,它完全没用。

如果你的一生只是为了看起来体面,那么头脑是个伟大的工具,你可以崇拜它。
但如果你的生命是关于了解那无边无际的存在,关于了解你的极限,关于了解你的源头,那么,头脑无法探索这些维度。

所以有些人把头脑搁在一边,变得没有头脑。他们不在乎你怎么看他们。他们会尖叫、呐喊、翻滚和颤抖(笑)。其中有些人确实喊得太过分了,我们会敲敲他们的脑袋,让他们安静下来。(笑)

但不要对你不了解的事情下判断,那是通向无知的最快方式。那等于是在把你的无知供奉起来。

那他们到底发生了什么?你想要亲自去探索、去看看吗?

求道者:
想。

萨古鲁:
看,有人在发抖,你并不知道那是因为寒冷,还是药物反应……(笑)只有当你亲自体验,你才会知道。所以,让自己变得敞开、可被触及、具有接收性。

如果你想知道超越你当前经验的东西,有一件事你必须清楚:你现在这个样子,是不够的。你必须明白,除非你对自己的不足有一种强烈的感受,否则你不会寻求任何真正宏大的东西,也不会以足够的强度去寻求。

你知道,现如今人们教你各种胡说八道:你要不断告诉自己——“我很棒,我很了不起。”对吧?这被称为自尊。你对孩子说:“你很棒,我爱你,别担心,一切都很好,你站在世界之巅。”这全是废话。这只是一种把你的局限性供奉起来的方式。

首先,为什么一定要有人告诉你“你很棒”?或者你要对自己说“我很棒”?因为你内在有一种不足感(a sense of insufficiency),对吧?

如果你感到不足,我认为这是非常好的。只有当你强烈地感到不足时,你才会渴望生命中发生更大的事情。如果你用廉价的词语掩盖你的不足,你就永远不会渴望任何东西。你会不断对自己说:“一切都很好。”

不是说我们不享受生命现在的样子,而是——它不够。只有这样,你才会渴望更多,不是吗?

仅仅吃庞格尔(pongal,南印度米饭)、喝咖啡、然后(模仿打嗝)——这对你来说并不够。
但对很多人来说,这就够了。对很多人来说,这就是人生的极致。我知道,庞格尔加咖啡,感觉确实不错。(笑)这真是致使昏沉的绝佳组合。对很多人来说,这已经是人生最大的满足。

只有当你觉得:吃、喝、睡不够;我生活中做的所有这些小事都不够;我想知道更多;这一切对我来说都不够——对另一个生命维度的强烈渴望才会出现。否则,不会发生。

所以,现在你唯一需要对自己做的事情,不是去判断别人,而是去看清:你有多么不够。

在那些尖叫的人中,有些人可能处在狂喜与深度冥想中,有些可能只是疯了。没关系。这两种人都没问题。无论他们是在冥想还是疯了,我都知道怎么应对。

现在我希望你明白,当你连自己生命的 ABC 都不知道——不知道自己从哪里来,不知道自己要到哪里去,不知道自己由什么构成——那你对生命下判断,本身就是一种疯狂。所以,不要进入这种疯狂。
如果你真的想对超越当前经验的维度保持开放,你必须做的一件事就是:清楚地看到——此刻的你,是极其不足的(insufficient)。

看,其实你并没有什么“实质”。你以为自己是个人物,其实你什么都不是。
这正在进行的吸气、呼气——如果下一次吸气没发生,你就完了,不是吗?

你看看周围的山——它们随时可以把你吞没。(笑)你对自己有很多想法,但你并不知道自己最基本的本质,对吧?

如果瑜伽只是你的一种娱乐,那也是一种业力。没问题,人可以继续这样。
但如果你真的想成长,你可以对自己做的一件非常简单的事就是:看看你有多么愚蠢。

不知道上一步,不知道下一步,却在当下这一小步里纠缠得如此厉害,好像这是生命的起点和终点。

你要看到:你所称为“我自己”的东西,甚至没有任何实质。它只是思想、观念、见解、信念系统的集合。

所以,我希望你一个一个地看清:

我的想法是愚蠢的;
我的判断是愚蠢的;
我的情绪是愚蠢的;
我的观念是愚蠢的;
我的哲学是愚蠢的;
我的信念系统是愚蠢的。
我所认知为“我自己”的一切,都是彻底愚蠢的。
我是这个世界上最大的傻瓜。

当你真正看到这一点时,你身体里的每一个细胞都会敞开,去认识真实。
这就是你唯一需要做的事情。

这正是我们从第一天开始对你做的事。自从你来到 Isha Yoga,你是不是一直觉得自己像个傻瓜?非常温柔、非常有爱地,他们一直在让你觉得自己是个彻底的傻瓜。是不是这样?

求道者:
我们已经感到一种不足感了,这正是我们来到你这里的原因。

萨古鲁:
一点点不足感,把你带到了这里。当你感到彻底、完全地不足时,那一刻,你将真正被送达。

——摘自《Himalayan Lust》


‘A little sense of insufficiency; that is why you have come. When you feel absolutely, utterly insufficient, that’s when you will know.’

Seeker: But why is it that the very sight of you makes some people go through different states, like yelling and screaming?

Sadhguru: You are not one of them! (Laughs)

Seeker: Why does it happen? And does it mean that they do not have control over their minds?

Sadhguru: Oh, you’ve already made the conclusion that they don’t have any control over their minds. Now, if you have not noticed this, they don’t even have to see me. If I just come walking there, even if they are sitting with their eyes closed, they will go crazy. Have you noticed this?

Seeker: Yes.

Sadhguru: So it’s not a visual effect. (Laughs) It is just like, when the sun comes up in the morning, many flowers bloom. But those buds which are unable to bloom – no wonder those haven’t bloomed. Those flowers which bloomed, they wither after some time, you know? So when they bloom and wither, those which could not bloom will think that they have lost control over their life. They have bloomed and they withered (Laughs), but they wither to become something else. A flower becomes a fruit or a seed, and life moves into the next dimension of experience and existence.

So never make judgments about things which are not in your experience. It will be very foolish, because all your judgments come from your present experience of life, isn’t it? So anything that is not in your experience, if it is not okay in your mind, you are ensuring that nothing new ever happens to you. Do you understand what I am saying? From this limited present experience, if you go on making judgments – that these other people are not okay, that they are weak-minded – you will find that you have been worshipping many on this list of weak-minded people. Shall I tell you many names that you have been worshipping? In your list of weak-minded people, the foremost among them are Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, all the gopis around the Krishna (Laughs), Shiva himself (a very weak-minded man – he always burst forth into all kinds of ecstatic states!) and all the people around Shiva.

It is just that life happens on many different levels and dimensions. Right now your experience is limited to just a few aspects of life. Before you fall dead, would you like to explore all the possibilities that life has?

Seeker: Yes.

Sadhguru: Then you should not make judgments about things which are not in your experience. It is not that they are weak-minded people. It is just that, when I am around, they are completely mindless people. If you don’t have a mind, the question of ‘weak mind/ strong mind’ doesn’t arise. I want you to understand, the mind is a very weak instrument, anyway. It’s capable of doing incredible things, but only in one dimension. If you switch your life to another dimension, it is completely useless. In the process of your survival, in the process of looking good in society, it’s a great instrument. In the process of approaching the divine, it’s no good.

So if your whole life is about just looking good, then the mind is a great instrument; you can worship it. If your life is about knowing the unbounded, if your life is about knowing the very limits of who you are, if your life is about knowing the very source of what you are, then your mind cannot explore these dimensions. So some people keep their mind aside and they become mindless. They don’t care what you think about them. They will scream and yell and roll and shake (Laughs). Some of them are screaming too much; we have knocked them on their heads and set them right. But don’t make judgments about things that you do not know. That’s a sure way to ignorance. It simply means you are enshrining your ignorance. So what’s happening to them? Would you like to explore and see?

Seeker: Yes.

Sadhguru: See, somebody is shaking; you don’t know what’s happening – whether they are shivering with cold or medication… (Laughter) Only if you experience it, you know. So make yourself available; we’ll see. Make yourself receptive. If you want to know something beyond what you are right now, one thing is you must see that the way you are right now is not sufficient. You must understand that unless there is a strong feeling of insufficiency, you will not seek anything big; you will not seek anything with great intensity.

You know, these days people are teaching you all this nonsense, that you must keep telling yourself, ‘I am great, I am wonderful.’ Yes? This is called self-esteem. You keep telling your children, ‘You are great, I love you. Don’t worry; everything is fine. You are just on top of the world.’ This is just bullshit. It is just a way of enshrining your limitations. Now, first of all, why does somebody have to tell you that you are great, or why do you have to tell yourself that you are great? Because there is a sense of insufficiency, isn’t it? If you are feeling insufficient, I think it’s very good. Only when you strongly feel a sense of insufficiency, you will long for something bigger to happen in your life. If you try to hide your insufficiency in cruddy words, then you will never long for anything. You will go on telling yourself everything is wonderful the way it is.

It is not that we don’t enjoy life the way it is, but it is not enough. Only then you long for more, isn’t it? Just eating pongal, drinking coffee and (simulates a belch) is not sufficient for you. For many people it’s sufficient, isn’t it? For many people that’s the ultimate in life. It feels good, pongal and coffee together, I know. (Laughter) Quite a good combination for lethargy. For many people that’s the ultimate satisfaction in their life.

Only when you feel this eating, drinking, sleeping is not enough – that all these little things that I do in my life are not enough; that I want to know something more; all this is not sufficient for me – an intensity of longing for another dimension of life comes. Otherwise, it won’t happen. So right now that’s all you need to do with yourself, instead of making judgments about other people. Of these screaming people, some of them may be ecstatic and highly meditative, some just insane. It doesn’t matter, you know? We are okay with both people. I have no problems. Whether they are meditative or they are mad, both ways it’s okay with me. I know what to do with both people.

Now I want you to understand, when you don’t know the ABC of your life – when you don’t know where you come from; where you will go; when you don’t know the very substance you are made of – you making judgments about life is also madness, isn’t it? So don’t get into that madness. If you truly want to be receptive to dimensions which are beyond your present level of experience, one thing that you have to do with yourself is to simply see how insufficient you are, as you are right now. Just see, there is no substance to you. You think you are something. You are nothing really. This inhalation, exhalation that’s going on – if the next inhalation doesn’t happen, you’re done, isn’t it?

You just look at the mountains as you go. You know, they can swallow you up in no time. (Laughs) You may be thinking many things about you, but still you don’t know the fundamental substance of what you are, isn’t it? If just yoga is another kind of entertainment for you, that’s another karma. It’s okay. People can go on with it. But if you really want to grow, one simple thing that you can do with yourself is just see how stupid you are. Not knowing the previous step, not knowing the next step, your entanglement in the present step of life is so tremendous, isn’t it? You don’t know the previous step; you don’t know the next step. But this step that you are in, you are stuck in it so badly, as if this is the beginning and end of life.

Now you just have to see, what you consider ‘myself’ is not even substance. What you consider ‘myself’ is just a bundle of thoughts, ideas, opinions, belief-systems. So one by one, I want you to see that, ‘My thoughts are stupid; my judgments are stupid; my emotions are stupid; my ideas are stupid; my philosophies are stupid; my belief systems are stupid. Everything that I know as ‘myself’ is utterly stupid, and I am the greatest idiot in the world.’ The moment you see this, now every cell in your body will be open to know what is what. If you see everything about you is utterly stupid, then suddenly you find every cell in your body is open to receive. That’s all you need to do. That’s what we have been doing to you from day one. Since you came to Isha Yoga, you have been feeling like an idiot, isn’t it? Very gently, very lovingly, they have been making you feel like an utter idiot. Isn’t it so?

Seeker: We already feel a sense of insufficiency and that is why we have come to you.

Sadhguru: A little sense of insufficiency; that is why you have come. When you feel absolutely, utterly insufficient, that’s when you will know. A little insufficiency has brought you here; utter insufficiency will deliver you.

— Himalayan Lust

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